SNOAA35E December   2023  – June 2024 LM2901 , LM2901B , LM2901B-Q1 , LM2903 , LM2903-Q1 , LM2903B , LM2903B-Q1 , LM339 , LM339-N , LM393 , LM393-N , LM393B , LM397 , TL331 , TL331-Q1 , TL331B

 

  1.   1
  2.   Abstract
  3.   Trademarks
  4. 1 Devices Covered in Application Note
    1. 1.1 Base Part Numbers
    2. 1.2 Input Voltage Offset Grades
    3. 1.3 Maximum Supply Voltage
    4. 1.4 High Reliability Options
  5. 2 The New TL331B, TL391B, LM339B, LM393B, LM2901B and LM2903B B Versions
  6. 3 PCN's to Change Classic Die to a New Die Design
    1. 3.1 PCN #1 for Single and Dual (TL331 and LMx93/LM2903)
    2. 3.2 PCN #2 for Single and Dual (TL331 and LMx93/LM2903)
    3. 3.3 PCN For Quad (LMx39/LM2901)
    4. 3.4 Device PCN Summary
    5. 3.5 Determining Die Version Used
      1. 3.5.1 Determine Die Used for Single TL331 and Dual LM293, LM393, and LM2903 - PCN #1 (Ji3)
      2. 3.5.2 Determine Die Used for Single TL331 and Dual LM293, LM393, and LM2903 - PCN #2 (TiB)
      3. 3.5.3 Determine Die Used for Quad LM139, LM239, LM339, and LM2901
  7. 4 Changes to Package Top Markings
  8. 5 Input Considerations
    1. 5.1  Input Stage Schematic – The Classic LM339 Family
    2. 5.2  Input Stage Schematic - New B and TiB Devices
    3. 5.3  Differences Between the Classic, B and Tib Die Devices
    4. 5.4  Input Voltage Range
    5. 5.5  Input Voltage Range vs. Common Mode Voltage Range
    6. 5.6  Reason for Input Range Headroom Limitation
    7. 5.7  Input Voltage Range Feature
    8. 5.8  Both Inputs Above Input Range Behavior
    9. 5.9  Negative Input Voltages
      1. 5.9.1 Maximum Input Current
      2. 5.9.2 Phase Reversal or Inversion
      3. 5.9.3 Protecting Inputs from Negative Voltages
        1. 5.9.3.1 Simple Resistor and Diode Clamp
        2. 5.9.3.2 Voltage Divider with Clamp
          1. 5.9.3.2.1 Split Voltage Divider with Clamp
    10. 5.10 Power-Up Behavior
    11. 5.11 Capacitors and Hysteresis
    12. 5.12 Output to Input Cross-Talk
  9. 6 Output Stage Considerations
    1. 6.1 Output VOL and IOL
    2. 6.2 Pull-Up Resistor Selection
    3. 6.3 Short Circuit Sinking Current
    4. 6.4 Pulling Output Up Above Vcc
    5. 6.5 Negative Voltages Applied to Output
    6. 6.6 Adding Large Filter Capacitors To Output
  10. 7 Power Supply Considerations
    1. 7.1 Supply Bypassing
      1. 7.1.1 Low VCC Guidance
      2. 7.1.2 Split Supply use
  11. 8 General Comparator Usage
    1. 8.1 Unused Comparator Connections
      1. 8.1.1 Do Not Connect Inputs Directly to Ground
      2. 8.1.2 Unused Comparator Input Connections
      3. 8.1.3 Leave Outputs Floating
      4. 8.1.4 Prototyping
  12. 9 PSpice and TINA TI Models
  13. 10Conclusion
  14. 11Related Documentation
    1. 11.1 Related Links
  15. 12Revision History

5.11 Capacitors and Hysteresis

Commonly designers add small value capacitors to the inputs to provide filtering, either for EMI filtering or to filter or clean up the input signals.

One common oversight is to add a capacitor (CF) to the non-inverting (IN+) node while using hysteresis (positive feedback), as shown in Figure 5-13

Example of Adding a Capacitor to IN+ While Using Hysteresis Figure 5-13 Example of Adding a Capacitor to IN+ While Using Hysteresis

The hysteresis feedback through RH1 shifts the threshold slightly on the very first transition of the output, muting further transitions. Adding the capacitor CF delays the hysteresis feedback, possibly allowing multiple transitions (bursting) before and after the transition, or even completely negating the hysteresis feedback action completely. Adding a large capacitor to the output can also have a similar effect (and can be asymmetrical due to the asymmetrical rise and fall times of a open-collector output).

Adding a capacitor to the inverting input is acceptable. The capacitor can be added to the non-inverting (IN+) node when hysteresis is not being used (no RH1). If filtering is still required when using hysteresis, the capacitor needs to be placed to the left of RFB2.